THE NET OF FAITH


by Peter Chelčický

translated by Rev. Enrico Molnár


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CHAPTER 68


REFUTATION OF THE ARGUMENTS OF AEGIDIUS CARLERII

PRESENTED AT THE COUNCIL OF BASIL



Now let us look at the arguments defending the power of the Church, as they were presented in the dispute between Master Aegidius[466] and Nicholas, the Bishop of Písek,[467] at Basel, concerning the article about the destruction of sins.[468]  Master Aegidius gave many reasons based on Church Doctors, and these were the official replies of the Council to Bishop Nicholas.  I shall recount some of these (discussions) in order to make better known some of those happenings that were woven so long ago; but not through my will, says the Lord.

Among many arguments, Master Aegidius says that the civil law can punish certain things legally by death and that this does not contradict the law of the gospel.[469]  The Explanation[470] says concerning the words “you shall not kill” that the judge does not kill the innocent, but that it is the law that does it…  And God can kill since He is the giver of life and death: “It is I who slay, and bring to life.”[471]  Therefore the kings whom God has authorized to rule can kill in the exercise of their justice.  It is also said to the Romans that those who do such things deserve to die.[472]  And about the judges he says that they do not wear the sword in vain, but serve God.[473]  The judge is justified to condemn to death in accordance with the Scripture that says, “as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me!”[474]  Then he mentions also Cyprian who, referring to the place in the Old Testament where God says to the tribe,


If someone entices you in your cities saying, “let us go and serve alien gods,” show him no mercy but be sure to kill him; and you kill him first, and then they shall kill those who are in the city.[475]


He says this in explanation of another text, “remembering the commandment, Matathias slaughtered those who offered sacrifices to the idols.”[476]  And since these things were commanded before the arrival of Christ, they are all the more valid after his appearance…




CHAPTER 69


THE ARGUMENTS OF AEGIDIUS CARLERII (CONTINUED)



Saint Augustine, speaking about the City of God, was standing on a bloody ground when he said, “If someone is killed justly, he is killed by the law and not by the lawyer.”  And Saint Jerome says, “It is not cruelty but kindliness to punish the sins for God.”  And by punishment he means death, as is evident by his examples of Phinehas and his justice,[477] the justice of Elijah,[478] the justice of Simon of Canaan who sent fiery serpents on the magicians,[479] the justice of Peter in punishing Ananias and Sapphira,[480] the justice of Paul who humbled Elymas the magician,[481] and he adds, “If your own brother, or friend, or wife should dare to defile truth, let your hand fall upon them and shed their blood.”  So much for Jerome.  The old saints have certainly gathered enough food for the sword so that it would not starve!  [ All these arguments are false, and mean only to confuse the issues and to justify violence. ]




CHAPTER 70


THE ARGUMENTS OF AEGIDIUS CARLERII (CONTINUED)



St. Gregory says, “the commandment ‘you shall not kill’ forbids anyone to kill a man, but not to hand over to death a man condemned by the law.”  For he who exercises public authority and punishes the evil-doers by virtue of the law is not a transgressor of the commandment “you shall not kill.”  And Saint Augustine, speaking of the City of God, says:


When a soldier kills a man while serving under the state authority, he is not guilty of murder.  On the contrary, if he refuses to obey the order to kill, he is guilty of insubordination.[482]


He wallows in blood saying this.  So, the soldier is obeying the law when he mercilessly murders people, but is a transgressor of the law if he should show mercy!  This is what he says, he who is supposedly filled of the Holy Spirit!  And again he says, that the House of David could not have had peace, had it not extinguished Absalom…

Master Aegidius used these as well as many other arguments in order to justify the right to spill blood by the secular authority.  He quoted the Church Fathers, some of whom I have mentioned here, to show how much Christendom has been stained by blood through these learned Doctors…  With their interpretations they are making God as having two mouths, with one saying “you shall not kill,” and with the other, “you shall kill.”

Who, then, can tell what God wants, when there are two ways, contrary to each other?  (In doing this) men turn away from God.




CHAPTER 71


THE ARGUMENTS OF AEGIDIUS CARLERII (CONTINUED)



[ The Church defends warfare and violence with the reasonings of famous men, saintly men, and men full of the Holy Spirit. ]  They sanctioned with the Holy Spirit the spilling of blood committed by the Church…  Yes, the Holy Spirit has gone into blood-letting for the peace of the holy mother Church.

Therefore, in order that their justifications might stand honorably and firmly among the Christians, they cunningly based their law on the words of Saint Paul who, condemning sins, said:


Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they do not only do them but also approve those who practice them.[483]


The doctors interpret the words, “deserve to die,” as sanctioning civil courts and executions…  But these words apply to the transgressors of the law of Christ and their punishment is the death of damnation.  Jesus Christ sent St. Paul to call the transgressors to the judgment of death and repentance…  And St. Paul preached to them repentance, giving himself for an example, that he was a murderer, and an enemy, and that (in spite of that) Christ Jesus showed him supreme patience, accepting him into his grace for the edification of those who are to believe in the Son of God and to repent for that for which they deserve death, and even hell…  The doctors have built a false foundation on these words with which they murder people, having perverted these words into a law for the spilling of free blood; and they gave this law as a testament to state authorities.[484]




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THE ARGUMENTS OF AEGIDIUS CARLERII (CONTINUED)



The second justification of war is also affixed to the words of Saint Paul who says:


If you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrong-doer.[485]


[ Paul speaks of the civil authority; in his case it was personalized by Emperor Nero. ]  And Paul admits that Nero with his sword is a servant of God, and an executioner of God’s anger.  [ Yet Nero used his sword even against Paul condemning him to death.  The apostle committed no wrong and yet the Emperor killed him.  And here come the Church’s obedient apologists who say, “He did not kill; it was the law that killed.” ]  Accordingly, the soldiers do not take their murders to their consciences … because their murdering is not killing … but simply the exercise of the law, and so a service to God…  The sanctity of the great saints is removing the (stigma) of a bad conscience from (killing)…


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[466] In the Czech original his name is Jiljí.  He is Aegidius Carlerii de Picardia, “decanus cameracensis,” professor of theology of the University of Paris, and one of the historic figures of the Council of Basel.  Cf. former discussion of the Council of Basel, page 34 and page 69.

[467] Nicholas of Pelhřimov (or Pilgram), Táborite Bishop of Písek was elected to episcopacy in 1420.  He defended the Táborite position at the Council of Basel.  It is mainly through his efforts that the Hussite clergy of the Táborite faction worked out a unified theological system at a synod held in Písek in 1422 (Cf. Palacky, Dějiny, 2nd ed., vol.4, 1, p.84).  King George of Podlebrad imprisoned him in 1452 and he died there in 1459.  Often nicknamed “Biskupec.”  Supra, pp.49-52.

[468] Here is meant the Fourth Article of Prague saying that “all mortal sins and especially the visible sins and other evils, contrary to the law of God, be judged and destroyed orderly and wisely by those who are authorized by their office to do so.”  (Quarto quod inordinaciones legi divine contrarie in quolibet statu rite et rationabiliter per eos, ad quos spectat, prohibeantur et destruantur.)  Cf. Monumenta Concilium Generalium: Concilium Basileense, p.389.

[469] Master Aegidius (in French, Giles Charlier) spoke from the 13th to the 17th of February 1433, and Bishop Nicholas on January 20th and 21st, 1433.  “Feria die 6 ante Valentini … surrexit doctor theologiae Aegidius de Picardia, volens ponere positionem contra Episcopi de destructione peccatorum…” (Cf. “Petri Zatecensis Liber Diurnus de Gestis Bohemorum in Concilio Basileensi,” in Monumenta conciliorum generalium; Concilium Basileense, Vienna: Imperial Academy of Sciences, 1857, p.309).  Also “Johannis de Ragusio Tractatus quomodo Bohemi reducti sunt ad unitatem ecclesiae,” in Monumenta, p.284f.: “Item die 13 Februarii in congregatione general hora consueta de mane magister Aegidius Carlerii, magister in theologia Parisiensis, incepit suam propositionem ad secondum (sic) articulum de peccatis mortalibus publice corrigendis respondendo, praemissis brevi collatione et protestationibus in similibus actibus fieri consuetis.  Et ea die complevit primum punctum suae positionis, quam prosecutis est per tres dies alios, videlicet die Sabbati qui fuit dies 14, et die Lunae qui erat dies 16, et die Martis sequenti qui fuit 17.  Et in fine positionis petiit veniam, si in aliquo offendisset sacrum concilium vel quemcumque auditorem sive in fide, sive in quibus-cunque aliis, et ut de offensis aut erratis benigne per sacrum concilium corrigeretur, si aliquo modo impegisset in aliquem, aut aliquem quo modo offendisset; et in his actus magistri Aegidii fuit finitus.

[470] Glossa Ordinaria, written by Abbot Walafried Strabo (decessit 1501), whose commentary on the Church Fathers was for a long time honored almost as much as the Bible.

[471] Deuteronomy 32:39.

[472] Romans 1:32.

[473] Romans 13:4.

[474] Luke 19:27. Cf. the item in “Petri Zatecensis liber diurnus…” in Monumenta, p.309: “Item homicidium in punitione malorum fieri dixit, probans per illud Romanorum 13: “Non sum sine causa,” etc. Item Lucae 19: “Inimicos meos,” etc.”

[475] Deuteronomy 13:6,9.

[476] 1 Maccabees 2:24.

[477] Numbers 25:7-8.

[478] 1 Kings 18:40.

[479] Reference to the old legend of Simon Magus (Acts 8:9-24) who is supposed to have reverted to his old practice of sorcery and to become a persistent antagonist of the Apostle Peter.

[480] Acts 5:1-10.

[481] Acts 13:8-11.

[482] Cf. De Civitate Dei, I, 20.

[483] Romans 1:32, RSV.

[484] Literally, “clerks of all blood.”

[485] Romans 13:4, RSV.